Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:57:30 GMT
From: it1jk@de-montfort.ac.uk (Groove Patrol Station 3)
Message-ID: <11261.9303181657@tlaloc.cms.dmu.ac.uk>
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Subject: Building a Parafoil

Hi.

I'm planning to build a Parafoil, but I've got a few queeries:

1) I've never sewn anything before, so I haven't even got a clue how to switch
the sewing machine on, so I thought I would get a girlie friend to do it for me.
She's good at sewing/textiles etc. but has never sewn Ripstop before. My plans
advise previous experience of sewing ripstop, so maybe if we just knocked up a
quick diamond kite, would that be enough experience? (Wouldn't want to waste all
that expensive Ripstop!)

2) Do you reckon if I doubled all the measurements, I could make a double-sized
Parafoil, or isn't it as simple as that?

3) If I attached two or four lines to it, as opposed to one; would it become a
stunt Parafoil?

Thanks.. hope you get a good blow soon!

James Kirk.

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 08:34:02 GMT
From: era_pul@halley.ki.ericsson.se (Peter Ulfheden )
Message-ID: <ERA_PUL.93Mar19093402@halley.ki.ericsson.se>
Organization: Ericsson Radio Systems AB, Sweden
Subject: Re: Building a Parafoil


Hi James,

>1) I've never sewn anything before, so I haven't even got a clue how to switch
>the sewing machine on, so I thought I would get a girlie friend to do it for me.
>She's good at sewing/textiles etc. but has never sewn Ripstop before. My plans
>advise previous experience of sewing ripstop, so maybe if we just knocked up a
>quick diamond kite, would that be enough experience? (Wouldn't want to waste all
>that expensive Ripstop!)

If you let a girlfried do the job, she will get experienced in making
kites, not you. Take her advice but do it yourself. It's fun.

I would recommend you to go and get the book "Kites and Windsocks" by
Jim Rowlands (don't have the ISBN at hand now). It has good chapters
describing sewing and general construction techniques.. Actually it's
a very good book. The book is entierly devoted to soft kites; soft
sleds, parafoils, flowforms, inflatables. The windsock and drouge
chapters are not very impressive, although there at least one
interesting design, in my opinion.

> 
>2) Do you reckon if I doubled all the measurements, I could make a
double-sized 
>Parafoil, or isn't it as simple as that?  
> 

As far as I know you can do that. If it gets very large I think you
have to increse the number of cells. But I guess we have other kiters
on the net being able to answer that.

>3) If I attached two or four lines to it, as opposed to one; would it become a
>stunt Parafoil?>
Well, there is the ParaFlex using two lines and the Quadrofoil using four...

>
>Thanks.. hope you get a good blow soon!

Tight line(s)

Peter

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 19:09:55 GMT
From: andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie)
Message-ID: <C45H8K.qB@tug.com>
Organization: Negligible.
Subject: Re: Building a Parafoil

In article <11261.9303181657@tlaloc.cms.dmu.ac.uk> it1jk@de-montfort.ac.uk (Groove Patrol Station 3) writes:
>so maybe if we just knocked up a
>quick diamond kite, would that be enough experience?
There is a lot to think about for building a soft kite.  There are two many
things to cover in one posting.  Anyway, I don't have enough experience
and it would be difficult to explain with out sketching pictures.

I'd like to reccommend that you spend the cost of a few metres of rip-stop
on a book: "Kites and Windsocks" by Jim Rolands. (ISBN: 0-7134-6705-3)
It is all about making soft kites.  It is also reccommended by Patrick Prosser
(are you still with us Pat?).  The Hybrid Sled (a sled with 2 inflated tubes),
requires only 1.25 metres of fabric may well be a good pattern for a first
kite.

>2) Do you reckon if I doubled all the measurements, I could make a double-sized
>Parafoil, or isn't it as simple as that?
I am told that the fabric strain is proportional to the cell size, so this
may lead to problems if you overdo it, and note that fabric cost may increase
by a factor of 4, but otherwise, this would probably work.  (I'm on unsure
ground here, I only say "probably").

>3) If I attached two or four lines to it, as opposed to one; would it become a
>stunt Parafoil?
You may well be able to exert some control over the kite in this manner.
just how much control sepends upon the kite and how you bridle it.  Feel
free to experiment.

Andrew
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Date: 22 Mar 93 17:58:37 GMT
From: sc5@prism.gatech.EDU (CSEPLO,STEPHEN P)
Message-ID: <90134@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Subject: Re: Building a Parafoil

In article <ERA_PUL.93Mar19093402@halley.ki.ericsson.se> era_pul@halley.ki.ericsson.se (Peter Ulfheden ) writes:
>
>>2) Do you reckon if I doubled all the measurements, I could make a
>double-sized 
>>Parafoil, or isn't it as simple as that?  

Parafoils or a different beast than most kites. To build a successful
foil, it takes more than just doubling the size of the patterns. Such a doubling
would result more in a flowform than a parafoil, though the two are similar.

Generally, the rules for parafoils dictate two cells between the keels and a 
square opening at the mouth. The angle of the opening (side view) should be
between 30-45 degress. As I recall, a proper parafoil should be twice as
wide as it is long. And of course the trailing edge should be closed
(though an open trailing edge is more efficient, but it wasn't the original
design). 

>
>>3) If I attached two or four lines to it, as opposed to one; would it become a
>>stunt Parafoil?>
>Well, there is the ParaFlex using two lines and the Quadrofoil using four...
>
If bridled properly, it will be a stuntable kite. There are plenty foil
sport kites on the market, the Peel and the Quadrifoil coming to mind.

And before you flexi fliers get mad out there, true enough they have a foil
section but, the rigid leading edge rod makes them a hybrid, not a true 
parafoil.

Well, that's my two cents worth.

See you at the Smithsonian or ODSKC!


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