Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 08:50:22 -1000 From: sasaki@netopd.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) Message-Id: <3kkipe$gms@netope.harvard.edu> Organization: Harvard OIT Network Services Subject: Camber I flew a pair of really nice kites this weekend. The duodrones, Paul Shuman and Judy Tate, had a non-vented version of their Speed Limit that had camber in the sail. The outside wing panels had stripes with curved edges. Paul and Judy use Autocad to design their kites and waxed poetic about how nice it was to just describe the shape of the wing and have Autocad generate the templates with seam allowances. Anyway, once the kites began moving forward, they pulled a bit more than previous unvented versions of the Speed Limit. They also flew in very light wind. It took a bit more effort to get them moving once you stopped them. This helped though with snap stall oriented moves. Once the kite was stalled, it held it's position really well. These kites are still prototypes, but they should make nice additions to the Speed Limit line... -- Marty Sasaki Harvard University Sasaki Kite Fabrications sasaki@noc.harvard.edu Network Services Division 26 Green Street 617-496-4320 10 Ware Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 Cambridge, MA 02138-4002 phone/fax: 617-522-8546 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:23:50 -1000 From: sasaki@netopd.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) Message-Id: <3kkv9m$v2c@netope.harvard.edu> Organization: Harvard OIT Network Services Subject: Re: Camber In article , higginson@pfc.mit.edu (Wavey Davey) writes: |>In article <3kkipe$gms@netope.harvard.edu>, sasaki@harvard.edu wrote: |>> I flew a pair of really nice kites this weekend. The duodrones, Paul |>> Shuman and Judy Tate, had a non-vented version of their Speed Limit |>> that had camber in the sail. |>Only one reservation. The stand-offs are attached via a rivet system. What |>happens if you break the standoffs (yes, i've done it before), do you have |>to re-rivet the new stand off ? They use the Beman paddles (or a similar look-alike) to attach the standoffs. If you break the standoff, then you just remove it from the paddle and put another one in. Many folks use this system since it is inexpensive and quick to use. -- Marty Sasaki Harvard University Sasaki Kite Fabrications sasaki@noc.harvard.edu Network Services Division 26 Green Street 617-496-4320 10 Ware Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 Cambridge, MA 02138-4002 phone/fax: 617-522-8546 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 11:40:50 -1000 From: higginson@pfc.mit.edu (Wavey Davey) Message-Id: Organization: MIT Plasma Fusion Center Subject: Re: Camber In article <3kkipe$gms@netope.harvard.edu>, sasaki@harvard.edu wrote: > I flew a pair of really nice kites this weekend. The duodrones, Paul > Shuman and Judy Tate, had a non-vented version of their Speed Limit > that had camber in the sail. > I agree, the tracking on the kites was amazing, as was the level of control. While the wind was light when I was flying them, the added camber seemed to drastically slow the kites down in comparisson to other deltas I have flown. Only one reservation. The stand-offs are attached via a rivet system. What happens if you break the standoffs (yes, i've done it before), do you have to re-rivet the new stand off ? Hopefully it won't be long until everyone can get their hands on these great kites. Dave. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 14:06:48 -1000 From: ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington) Message-Id: Organization: MIT/LCS Spoken Language Systems Subject: Re: Camber In article <3kkv9m$v2c@netope.harvard.edu> sasaki@netopd.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) writes: | They use the Beman paddles (or a similar look-alike) to attach the | standoffs. If you break the standoff, then you just remove it from the | paddle and put another one in. Many folks use this system since it is | inexpensive and quick to use. It is also not that hard to replace a damaged paddle. You can cut an old eyelet or "rivet" off with wire cutters and put a new one on. I had some paddles break on a kite I made, but that was because I sewed them on with a too tight stitch. Using eyelets is faster and easier too. -- Lee Hetherington ilh@lcs.mit.edu = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =