Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:07:11 -1000 From: Thom Shanken Message-Id: <5K3On03.thomshanken@delphi.com> Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Subject: CYBERKITES First, the good news: I am happy to report that the rec.kites community appears to have understood my "cyberkites" ramblings. The bad news is that I cannot possibly respond to all this mail (its a "time and money thing" 'ya know). A form letter would be too impersonal, so I hope you all don't mind if I try to answer some of your questions here. Before I begin: I am "digging up" my edible kite notes and will attempt to post them tomorrow as: EDIBLE KITES. Also, for those of you who I did mail to (before the mail "got deep"), please let me now that you received my "e-post", as a newbie (Ihate that term, it reminds me of "Romper Room") this was my first mail attempt and I am constantly getting the feeling that I am doing something wrong! The general consensus on "CYBERKITER" seems to be that you all liked it but felt that others would want to stick to "rec.kites". This brings me to two possible conclusions: 1. You really did like it, 2. You were just being polite, in either case, THANK YOU! :-) As a great believer in the win/win situation (and, of course, assuming that you really did like the concept), I do not see why a design could not be done with both: rec.kites CYBERKITER To answer the questions on spelling and definition (please understand that I am making this up as I go along), I should think that, in the interest of avoiding esoterica, the "kite" in "cyberkite" should be spelled with a "K" (lets face it, to the uninitiated, "rec.kites" sounds like the act of destroying kites), in this way it would be easier for the "average" person to figure out (does anyone know an "average person"? :-)) At this point I think it would help to give my definition of "kite" as it pertains to rec.kiters (as opposed to birds, bad checks, or bad people): "a tethered airfoil" PERIOD!!!!!!! I emphasize this simple definition to those in the kiting community who feel that THEIR kite, be it big, small, single lined, or six hundred lined is the only REAL kite. By MY definition a tethered helicopter is a kite (a rotor blade is an airfoil, the engine is irrelevant, and the thing is tethered). In this way EVERYBODY is included in ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY!!!!! OK? Having said this, I would define "CYTE" as: "a tethered airfoil in cyberspace". By being somewhat ambiguous, "CYTING" can relate to: talking about, flying, or "whatevering" kites in cyberspace. Well, there you have it....."Thom's ramblings for tonight!" Again, my warmest thanks for such a wonderful worldwide response, it caught me quite by surprise! :-) Thom :-) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 08:13:03 -1000 From: kiteman@pro-entropy.cts.com (Mr. Kiteman) Message-Id: <1994Jun11.131303.309@pro-entropy.cts.com> Organization: Pro-Entropy +1-305-265-9073 (DAR Systems Int'l -- Miami, FL) Subject: Re: CYBERKITES >At this point I think it would help to give my definition of "kite" as it >pertains to rec.kiters (as opposed to birds, bad checks, or bad people): >"a tethered airfoil" PERIOD!!!!!!! I emphasize this simple definition to >those in the kiting community who feel that THEIR kite, be it big, small, >single lined, or six hundred lined is the only REAL kite. By MY definition >a tethered helicopter is a kite (a rotor blade is an airfoil, the engine is >irrelevant, and the thing is tethered). In this way EVERYBODY is included >in ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY!!!!! OK? Having said this, I would define "CYTE" as: >"a tethered airfoil in cyberspace". By being somewhat ambiguous, "CYTING" >can relate to: talking about, flying, or "whatevering" kites in cyberspace. > > Thom :-) A kite in the shape of a helicopter with spinning rotors would technically be referred to as an 'autogyro'. Just food for thought- not trying to stir the waters. [Rotary-wing aircraft in which the main rotor is NOT powered during flight is called an autogyro- or in some cases a gyrocopter ]. Your Friendly Neighborhood Kiteman.... ^^^^^^^^ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Pro-Entropy (C)1994 by DAR Systems International, All Rights Reserved Internet: kiteman@pro-entropy.cts.com Real Name: Allan E. Gaines Call PRO-ENTROPY for the latest chaos at 305-265-9073 (14.4K Baud) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 06:53:24 -1000 From: johnsen@eskimo.com (Brian Johnsen) Message-Id: Organization: Captain Pugets Roadside Taco Stand Subject: Re: CYBERKITES In article <5K3On03.thomshanken@delphi.com>, Thom Shanken wrote: [ ] >in ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY!!!!! OK? Having said this, I would define "CYTE" as: >"a tethered airfoil in cyberspace". By being somewhat ambiguous, "CYTING" >can relate to: talking about, flying, or "whatevering" kites in cyberspace. A cytowhatever is some sort of mitochondrial blastula or what. Cyting sounds like some kinda parking ticket. I think you've been reading too much Mel Gibson. -- "Beings From The Outer Limits Landed In My Garden And Defenestrated Ninety-Eight Cherries" Claims Pauley Shore -- Brian Johnsen johnsen@eskimo.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 07:26:13 -1000 From: Thom Shanken Message-Id: Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Subject: Re: CYBERKITES Mr. Kiteman writes: >A kite in the shape of a helicopter with spinning rotors would technically >be referred to as an 'autogyro'. Just food for thought- not trying to stir >the waters. > >[Rotary-wing aircraft in which the main rotor is NOT powered during flight >is called an autogyro- or in some cases a gyrocopter ]. You are absolutely CORRECT!!!!! Now, please re-read what I wrote: >>a tethered helicopter is a kite (a rotor blade is an airfoil, the engine is >>irrelevant, and the thing is tethered). In this way EVERYBODY is included Your equally friendly (but not as quick on my keyboard trigger finger) :-), Thom :-) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 05:11:57 -1000 From: kiteman@pro-entropy.cts.com (Mr. Kiteman) Message-Id: <1994Jun13.101157.349@pro-entropy.cts.com> Organization: Pro-Entropy +1-305-265-9073 (DAR Systems Int'l -- Miami, FL) Subject: Re: CYBERKITES Thom Shanken writes: >Mr. Kiteman writes: > >>A kite in the shape of a helicopter with spinning rotors would technically >>be referred to as an 'autogyro'. Just food for thought- not trying to stir >>the waters. >> >>[Rotary-wing aircraft in which the main rotor is NOT powered during flight >>is called an autogyro- or in some cases a gyrocopter ]. > >You are absolutely CORRECT!!!!! Now, please re-read what I wrote: > >>>a tethered helicopter is a kite (a rotor blade is an airfoil, the engine is >>>irrelevant, and the thing is tethered). In this way EVERYBODY is included > >Your equally friendly (but not as quick on my keyboard trigger finger) :-), > >Thom :-) Hey, what can I say? You live in Miami- you become anti-social! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Pro-Entropy (C)1994 by DAR Systems International, All Rights Reserved Internet: kiteman@pro-entropy.cts.com aka: Allan E. Gaines Call PRO-ENTROPY for the latest chaos at 305-265-9073 (14.4K Baud) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =