Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 12:57:36 -1000 From: jason.stotter@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu Message-Id: <9411181757.0P8AW00@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu> Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University Subject: FAA REGULATIONS Greetings, I agree with Alice on the FAA regulation about the five pound weight limit. My brother and I recently built a 24 sq. ft. delta, the biggest kite that I've ever flown. It barely half a pound. ( I just weighed it) A five pound kite would have to be very, very big. I can well understand the FAA regulating such large kites. Good Winds. Jason Stotter jason.stotter@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 17:51:06 -1000 From: Colin_Douthwaite@equinox.gen.nz (Colin Douthwaite) Message-Id: <3arpra$qb8@southern.co.nz> Organization: Southern InterNet Services Subject: Re: FAA REGULATIONS jason.stotter@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu wrote: : Greetings, : I agree with Alice on the FAA regulation about the five pound weight : limit. My brother and I recently built a 24 sq. ft. delta, the biggest kite : that I've ever flown. It barely half a pound. ( I just weighed it) A five : pound kite would have to be very, very big. I can well understand the FAA : regulating such large kites. So are you saying that the FAA Regulations allow you to fly anywhere, anytime and at any height, provided your kite weighs less than 5 lbs ? How do they know how much it weighs once it is flying ? Bye, = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 14:16:16 -1000 From: travell@comics.enet.dec.com (I want to `Go Fly a Kite'!) Message-Id: <9411230016.AA27910@vbormc.vbo.dec.com> Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University Subject: Re: FAA REGULATIONS Colin, Here in the UK for the most part you are right. The following is a summary (from memory) of the CAA kite flying regs. IF you wish to fly ANY kite at a height exceeding 200ft (UK) you MUST hang suitable laundry (of specified visibility characteristics) on the line, AND you MUST have permission from the CAA. If you wish to fly any kite at any height from a place that is within FIVE kilometers of the boundary of an active airfield you MUST have permission from the CAA. (disused airfield does not count!) If you wish to fly a kite that weighs FIVE pounds or more at ANY height you MUST have both permission from the CAA and suitable line laundry. If your kite weighs LESS than five pounds, is being flown at LESS than 200ft from a place MORE than five kilometers from an airfield then the CAA is not interested. (other people might be, but not the CAA). John Travell. Solent Kite Flyers is a NEW Kite club based around Southampton, UK, Contact me by Email "travell@kernel.enet.dec.com" for further info. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 17:00:32 -1000 From: hayden1009@aol.com (Hayden1009) Message-Id: <3aub8g$1s1@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: FAA REGULATIONS In article <3arpra$qb8@southern.co.nz>, Colin_Douthwaite@equinox.gen.nz (Colin Douthwaite) writes: >fly any time place, provided the kites is under 5#? How do they know how >what it weights once it is in the air. In this country, yes. I suspect that they would have to ask you to take the kite down and weigh it. After all, everyone knows if a cop pulls you over you ask for the last calibration date on his radar gun and the exact speed you were clocked at ( they are only accurate to within 7 mph). Point the law has to be careful because everyone looks for loop holes. The purpose of the law in the US is to insure that everyone has an equal (or equally obstructed) opportunity to pursue happiness. Alice Hayden 8^) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:02:11 -1000 From: gaffer@ibmpcug.co.uk (Andrew Beattie) Message-Id: Organization: /usr/lib/news/organiszation Subject: Re: FAA REGULATIONS I want to `Go Fly a Kite'! wrote: >The following is a summary (from memory) of the CAA kite flying regs. >good summary deleted The Air Navigation order (the bit of the UK law with which we are concerned) will be updated on the 13th Jan 1995. You can get a copy of the new law from: Civil Aviation Authority Greville House 37 Grattan Road Cheltenham UK After that date. I understand that the definition of "airport" (as in somewhere you can't fly kites) is being tightened up. Currently, it just about any obscure written reference to use for aircraft makes somewhere an airport. The new law will only recognise registered sites. No doubt other things will change too, but I don't know about them. Andrew -- You can permanently disable the disclosure of your phone number by asking 150. You can enable the disclosure for one call by prefixing with 1470. You can subscribe to the BT price list by requesting it on 0171 356 7231 British Telecom: The *Corporate* Personification Of Evil = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 06:37:21 -1000 From: Jim.White@ind3x.dircon.co.uk (Jim White) Message-Id: <81a_9411301739@ind3x.dircon.co.uk> Organization: ind3x Subject: FAA REGULATIONS From: Jim.White@ind3x.dircon.co.uk (Jim White) Subject: Re: FAA REGULATIONS Org: The Midlands Kite Fliers of Great Britain -=> Quoting Andrew Beattie to All <=- AB> The Air Navigation order (the bit of the UK law with which we are AB> concerned) will be updated on the 13th Jan 1995. I frequently am in contact with the Civil Aviation Authority (Air Utilisation Section) at Hillingdon House Uxbridge Middx UB10 0RU as I apply for clearances to fly above 200' as part of my job as Secretary of the Midlands Kite Fliers of Great Britain. The lady in charge is going to send me detials of the new regs, when they come out - but apparantly do not hold your breath - they may be ages away yet, even though they are suppose to be out in Jan/Feb 95 If anyone wants the full regs of kiteflying - which are very intersting and never adhered to fully - contact me through Jim.White@ind3x.dircon.co.uk from Julie White Secretary - The Midlands Kite Fliers of Great Britain +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | ind3x.dircon.co.uk in Nottingham, England /_ _|_ | | // || |_|\/ | | "...Slave to the hormone, body and soul..." // ||_|_|/\ | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 10:53:58 -1000 From: mark@murder.demon.co.uk (Mark de Roussier) Message-Id: <786167638snx@murder.demon.co.uk> Organization: damage Subject: Re: FAA REGULATIONS In article gaffer@ibmpcug.co.uk (Andrew Beattie) writes: > > After that date. I understand that the definition of "airport" (as in > somewhere you can't fly kites) is being tightened up. Currently, it just > about any obscure written reference to use for aircraft makes somewhere > an airport. The new law will only recognise registered sites. You mean things might even get a tiny little bit better for fliers ? Gee. Does this count as a U-Turn ?:) -- Mark de Roussier ************************************ A nice man is a man of nasty ideas. Jonathon Swift. ************************************ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 16:24:00 -1000 From: tony.fitchett@welcom.gen.nz (Tony Fitchett) Message-Id: <9412021630139333@welcom.gen.nz> Organization: WELCOM BBS +644-385-6550 Subject: FAA REGULATIONS Mark de Roussier quotes you as follows := MDR> In article gaffer@ibmpcug.co.uk (Andrew Beattie > tes: > > After that date. I understand that the definition of "airport" (as in > somewhere you can't fly kites) is being tightened up.etc.. Your messsage did not appear on Rec.kites here - could you repost it to me, or let me know what is to happen in the UK.Cheers. CU in Napier avec chocs ?? * SPEED 1.30 [NR] * = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 00:48:00 -1000 From: tony.fitchett@welcom.gen.nz (Tony Fitchett) Message-Id: <9501280431591094@welcom.gen.nz> Organization: WELCOM BBS Subject: FAA REGULATIONS AB> The Air Navigation order (the bit of the UK law with which we are AB> concerned) will be updated on the 13th Jan 1995. JW> > I frequently am in contact with the Civil Aviation Authority (Air > Utilisation Section) > The lady in charge is going to send me detials of the new regs, when they > come out Any news yet ? We are about to restart dialogue with the local CAA and hopefully get well away from banners on flying lines and 5 lb limits. We might be able to convince our officials to disregard the FARs which seem to be ignored in the US and go for something like our Australian cousins - height 300 feet and not within 4 Km of an airfield - or Germany - height 100 m. If we win on this one we will celebrate with a Beattie 5lb box of chocs... (for starters, that is !) --- * SPEED 1.30 [NR] * = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =