Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 20:55:32 GMT From: sasaki@netop3 (Marty Sasaki) Message-ID: <1993Feb24.205626.23661@das.harvard.edu> Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University Subject: glueing and stiching. Please note: This message is being forwarded by hand. The message was received before the auto-magic forwarding software was in place. - Marty Sasaki ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: plepez@ulb.ac.be (Lepez Philippe) Subject: glueing and stiching. Date: Tue, 23 Feb 93 11:56:51 MET Cc: plepez@ulb.ac.be HI everybody, I don't use classical seams in assembling kites : neither the single flat stiched seam nor the double flat stiched seam. I simply stiches the two layers of nylon put one over the other. Before stiching I glue them with Cyanolit or vynil glue. It is much easier to do, I don't know if it as good but until now I had no trouble. The only backdraw is that, close to the kite, you may see where the glue has been. I would like to ask to the group their comments and remarks. Good winds. Philippe. -- Philippe Lepez (CP 125), | | Good kite Universite Libre de Bruxelles, | Email: plepez@ulb.ac.be | + Good wind 50 av. Roosevelt, | Phone: 32.2.6503553 | ---------------- 1050 Bruxelles, Belgique. | Fax : 32.2.6503323 | = A lot of fun ! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 20:56:49 GMT From: sasaki@netop3.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) Message-ID: <1993Feb25.205649.16207@das.harvard.edu> Organization: Harvard University Subject: Re: glueing and stiching. >I don't use classical seams in assembling kites : neither the single flat >stiched seam nor the double flat stiched seam. I simply stiches the two >layers of nylon put one over the other. Before stiching I glue them with >Cyanolit or vynil glue. >It is much easier to do, I don't know if it as good but until now I had no >trouble. The only backdraw is that, close to the kite, you may see where the >glue has been. Many people use glue to hold pieces together before stitching them. Some kite makers lay the fabric one piece over the other and stitch through (the Big Brother is made this way). I feel that the double folded flat seam (I use a variant of the flat-fell seam) looks neater, so I use it. As far as I can tell there isn't really any practical reason to use one seam over another as far as strength goes. Since I make a lot of kites, time is most important to me, and waiting for glue to dry just takes too long for me. Also, with a bit of practice, I find that I don't need to use glue, pins, or hot tacking to hold the pieces together as I sew them. -- Marty Sasaki Harvard University Sasaki Kite Fabrications sasaki@noc.harvard.edu Network Operations Division 26 Green Street 617-496-4320 10 Ware Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 Cambridge, MA 02138-4002 phone/fax: 617-522-8546 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 20:53:02 GMT From: andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie) Message-ID: Organization: Negligible. Subject: Re: glueing and stiching. >I simply stiches the two >layers of nylon put one over the other. Before stiching I glue them with >Cyanolit or vynil glue. >[...] >I would like to ask to the group their comments and remarks. Tim Benson did this on the Benson Wasp. This tiny kite has about 10 pannels and is built around a 2mm and 3mm carbon frame. The pannels are joined in this way to help keep the weight down. I don't think that this is a particularly strong seam, but on the scale of the wasp, it doesn't matter. The wasp is a beautifuly built kite, uncontrollably fast in a strong wind and no longer in production :-( Andrew -- andrew@tug.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =