Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 18:54:08 -1000 From: roy@panix.com (Roy Radow) Message-Id: <2n33hg$mod@panix2.panix.com> Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Subject: Help Needed with a Prism Eclipse A friend of mine just did a wonderful and generous thing- he sent me a brand new Prism Eclipse as a surprise present. When I assembled the kite, however, the positioning of the stand-offs in relation to the bottom spreaders just didn't look right. 17" 11 1/2" 11 1/2" 17" V----------------X----------T----------X-----------------V / \ 10 1/4" / \ 10 1/4" / \ / \ S S The Field Guide instructions which were included seem to suggest that this is the right way to assemble the kite. However, in this configuration the stand-offs, rather than being perpendicular to the bottom spreaders, form almost a 45 degree angle (SXV) which seems rather peculiar. If anyone has any definitive knowledge as to the correct way to position the bottom spreaders I would be most grateful to hear from you. BTW I hear that this is a magnificant kite to fly. It's cold and we're expecting snow in NYC, but Spring weather is coming soon. :-) Happy flying to one and all. Roy -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:38:33 -1000 From: Simo.Salanne@bofnet.mailnet.fi Message-Id: <2D969789. 14501*_G=Simo_S=Salanne_UA-ID=000000001_PRMD=BOFNET_ADMD=MAILNET_C=FI_@ MHS> Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University Subject: RE: Help Needed with a Prism Eclipse > > However, in this configuration the stand-offs, rather than > being perpendicular to the bottom spreaders, form almost a > 45 degree angle (SXV) which seems rather peculiar. > > If anyone has any definitive knowledge as to the correct way > to position the bottom spreaders I would be most grateful to > hear from you. > I don't know Prism Eclipse, but your drawing makes me to suggest you reverse the lower spreaders; i.e. put the end now in T to V. Smooth Winds Simo Salanne = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 02:59:46 -1000 From: sritter@umi.com (Sam Ritter x3111) Message-Id: <2n6kc2$mks@news.umi.com> Organization: University Microfilms Inc. Subject: Re: Help Needed with a Prism Eclipse In article <2D969789.14501*_G=Simo_S=Salanne_UA-ID=000000001_PRMD=BOFNET_ADMD=MAILNET_C=FI_@MHS> Simo.Salanne@bofnet.mailnet.fi writes: >> >> However, in this configuration the stand-offs, rather than >> being perpendicular to the bottom spreaders, form almost a >> 45 degree angle (SXV) which seems rather peculiar. >> >> If anyone has any definitive knowledge as to the correct way >> to position the bottom spreaders I would be most grateful to >> hear from you. >> >I don't know Prism Eclipse, but your drawing makes me to >suggest you reverse the lower spreaders; i.e. put the end now >in T to V. The original drawing is correct. I just got two of the darn things earlier this month and that's the only way they fit. My problem with the kite is that whenever I do any of that radical stuff the bridles get caught up around the wing battens. Except for that, the kite is well made and does a lot of neat stuff. Good Luck Sam sritter@umi.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 17:56:44 -1000 From: seigle@delphi.com Message-Id: Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Subject: Re: Help Needed with a Prism Eclipse Roy Radow writes: >A friend of mine just did a wonderful and generous thing- >he sent me a brand new Prism Eclipse as a surprise present. > Lucky you! I had to purchase mine but got a great price at Kites of Boston (not a plug, just a great price @ $129). >When I assembled the kite, however, the positioning of the >stand-offs in relation to the bottom spreaders just didn't >look right. > > 17" 11 1/2" 11 1/2" 17" >V----------------X----------T----------X-----------------V > / \ > 10 1/4" / \ 10 1/4" > / \ > / \ > S S > > >The Field Guide instructions which were included seem to >suggest that this is the right way to assemble the kite. > >However, in this configuration the stand-offs, rather than >being perpendicular to the bottom spreaders, form almost a >45 degree angle (SXV) which seems rather peculiar. > >If anyone has any definitive knowledge as to the correct way >to position the bottom spreaders I would be most grateful to >hear from you. This is correct as I have flown my kite this way. I believe it is specifically designed this way due to the sail shape, batten placement and probably the proximity to the mylar panel. This is just my opinion, which may be a naiive guess. >BTW I hear that this is a magnificant kite to fly. It is, drawing compliments and envious looks from fliers and beachgoers. It alsohas multiple configurations for various wind conditions which make it pretty versatile. Its rated for 4-22 MPH but it seems like its happiest below 14 MPH. Smooth Winds, Mitch seigle@delphi.com -- You can't teach a pig to sing. It wastes time and it annoys the pig. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 12:00:15 -1000 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) Message-Id: <2n7k1f$hkm@umd5.umd.edu> Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Subject: Re: Help Needed with a Prism Eclipse In article <2n6kc2$mks@news.umi.com> sritter@umi.com (Sam Ritter x3111) writes: >My problem with the kite is that whenever I do any of that radical stuff >the bridles get caught up around the wing battens. Except for that, the >kite is well made and does a lot of neat stuff. This is a perfect example of a kite on which a monofilament "cheater line" would be extremely useful. Just take some lightweight (I use 10 or 15 lb test) line and string it from wingtip to spine to wingtip. This will stop your lines/bridles from getting caught on any pointy bits on the trailing edge. Most convenient. For reasons I don't recall, I took my cheater lines off my Pro and I never got around to putting them on my Ultras. I still have 'em on my Extremes and my 3/4 Tracer. Very useful. Jeff -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out | |Suffering Bad Grammar| Never following through / Never ever finishing | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | What we wanted to do." -- Melissa Ferrick | = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 03:08:11 -1000 From: sritter@umi.com (Sam Ritter x3111) Message-Id: <2n997r$17l@news.umi.com> Organization: University Microfilms Inc. Subject: Re: Help Needed with a Prism Eclipse In article <2n7k1f$hkm@umd5.umd.edu> jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) writes: >In article <2n6kc2$mks@news.umi.com> sritter@umi.com (Sam Ritter x3111) writes: > >>My problem with the kite is that whenever I do any of that radical stuff >>the bridles get caught up around the wing battens. Except for that, the >>kite is well made and does a lot of neat stuff. > >This is a perfect example of a kite on which a monofilament "cheater line" >would be extremely useful. Just take some lightweight (I use 10 or 15 lb >test) line and string it from wingtip to spine to wingtip. This will stop >your lines/bridles from getting caught on any pointy bits on the trailing >edge. Most convenient. I'm not get caught on the trailing edge as much as I am on where the batten meets the leading edge. ( the battens are all the way in the pockets. ) I don't know what I am doing to get caught up there. Usually getting caught on the trailing edge is not much of a problem for me. Sam = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =