Date:	Thu, 20 Oct 1994 01:11:22 -1000
From:	R.B.Birch@lut.ac.uk (Ray Birch)
Message-Id: <Cxyxqy.Mn9@lut.ac.uk>
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Subject: How to 'tune' a 1st. attempt stunter

I have tried without success to make a kite which I made from a plan in a book
called "Kites to make and Fly" by Jim Rowlands fly properly. I made it from
nylon and the spars are 8mm dowell.( If anyone knows the book it is the 
Crusader). I am very pleased with the finished article, apart from the fact
that I can't seem to get it to fly very well. It rises beautifully, but has
a tendency to go too  high and belly flop as the air spills out. On other 
occasions when it doesn't go to high I have little control over it and it is not very stable. I've tried altering the lengths of the bridles which has decreased it's tendency to rise to high, but I still can't gain much control over it!
As it is my first attempt I don't know much about the 'physics' of kites. 
I'm very pleased with the way it looks in the air, but would be grateful for
any tips about how to keep it there!!



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Date:	Fri, 21 Oct 1994 09:26:10 -1000
From:	reich@nosc.mil (Ronald S. Reich)
Message-Id: <9410211926.AA11053@cod>
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Subject: Re: How to 'tune' a 1st. attempt stunter

Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 11:11:22 GMT
From: R.B.Birch@lut.ac.uk (Ray Birch)
Subject: How to 'tune' a 1st. attempt stunter

>I have tried without success to make a kite which I made from  a 
>plan  in a book called "Kites to make and Fly" by  Jim  Rowlands 
>fly properly.... Stuff deleted....

     The tolerance on the up and down bridle adjustment of a kite 
is directly proportional to the amount of billow in the sail.

     For instance a kite with a very flat sail will require  very 
fine  tuning in order for it to fly correctly and a kite  with  a 
lot  of  billow   will  fly well over a  large  range  of  bridle 
settings.

     For  your case I would suggest changing the cross  spreaders 
(shorter  ones)  to increase the amount of billow  and  then  try 
again.  You may have to also shorten the top spreader if there is 
one.  (to keep from bending the leading edge)

     Let us know what happens.  Good Luck

                            Ron Reich





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Date:	Mon, 24 Oct 1994 03:22:08 -1000
From:	jimg@ncp.gpt.co.uk (Jim Grindell)
Message-Id: <9410241322.AA13966@suasic1.asicyp>
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Subject: Re: How to 'tune' a 1st. attempt stunter

Ray Birch writes:

>I have tried without success to make a kite which I made from  a 
>plan  in a book called "Kites to make and Fly" by  Jim  Rowlands 
>fly properly.... Stuff deleted....

Me too! I am a complete novice as far as making kites goes. My only
previous experince is making some simple vented sled kites for a childrens
summer camp.

I made the same delta kite as Ray (Crusader) out of plastic and dowels
just to see how well it would fly, planning to get some better sail
material if it went well. I took it out for its first test flight a couple
of weeks ago and it behaved exactly the same as Rays kite (unstable and
unresponsive).

The bridles are three point bridles, one each side, with the connections
to the frame being at the middle of the spreader, the ends of the spreader
and about a quarter of the way down the leading edges. The thing that I
find confusing is the upper length of line from the leading edge is longer
(73cm) than the other two lengths (63cm I think). This would seem to make
the angle of attack all wrong for the kite to fly. I tried messing about
with this length but it didn't help much. I gave up when I broke one of
the leading edge spars. I too would be grateful of any helpful advice.

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