Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 15:21:17 -1000 From: mark@hellcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mark C Lindgren) Message-Id: <2n5bed$mhk@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> Organization: University of Oklahoma, Engineering Computer Network Subject: kites = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 12:01:23 -1000 From: 42@rapidx.com Message-Id: <9405221701.D4722QK@rapidx.com> Organization: Rapid Transit BBS Subject: kites I wish to build my daughter an unusual looking kite. Something really neat that cannot be found in stores. Any ideas or plans? reply to Fu-kemal IN:42@rapidx.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 10:03:39 -1000 From: liggett@lvld.hp.com (Bob Liggett) Message-Id: <35q3ir$sau@hplvec.lvld.hp.com> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO Subject: kites I am looking for advice for my next purchase. I have a Griffin three stripe, a stack of three trilbies, and a fighter. I was thinking of a Backtracker or flexifoil or Quadrifoil. I like the Backtracker, (smaller and easier to learn on Rev). The Quadrifoil may be a smaller step before a full blown Rev. I don't know much about the flexifoil. Is it just a delta with a different shape? I'm also thinking ultra-light. I have pretty much settled on a Griffin SUL. It seems the best for the money. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:08:08 -1000 From: hayden1009@aol.com (Hayden1009) Message-Id: <35srno$9fk@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: kites In article <35q3ir$sau@hplvec.lvld.hp.com>, liggett@lvld.hp.com (Bob Liggett) writes: >looking for next kite, seems to be interested in quad types The Quadrafoil is good to learn on, nothing to break. From what I've heard the Backtracker is different flying than the REV or REV II (what I learned on). The Ultra suggestion is not bad. The Ultra comes in vented or non-vented versions and the standard bridle allows for either quad or dual flying. At NY the Magical Mystery Tape Pairs event, the Ultra pair seemed to be the pair of choice and they did fly nice. They are a light kite to fly. At a quad, there are different things that can be done with a quaded delta than a rev or foil or decca. Some flyers like one thing or the other better. That is personal preference. Best advice, find flyers and ask to try their kites. Good Winds....Alice Hayden = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 00:38:53 -1000 From: gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu (George W. Gilchrist) Message-Id: Organization: Dept. of Zoology, University of Washington Subject: Re: kites In article <35q3ir$sau@hplvec.lvld.hp.com> liggett@lvld.hp.com (Bob Liggett) writes: >From: liggett@lvld.hp.com (Bob Liggett) >Subject: kites >Date: 21 Sep 1994 20:03:39 GMT > >I am looking for advice for my next purchase. I have a Griffin three stripe, a >stack of three trilbies, and a fighter. >I was thinking of a Backtracker or flexifoil or Quadrifoil. I like the >Backtracker, (smaller and easier to learn on Rev). The Quadrifoil may be a >smaller step before a full blown Rev. I don't know much about the flexifoil. >Is it just a delta with a different shape? >I'm also thinking ultra-light. I have pretty much settled on a Griffin SUL. It >seems the best for the money. Bob, I just bought an Ultra. Its a dual line or quad line delta. Excellent low to moderate wind performance. Advantage ultralight spars are available. In dual line mode, the kite is amazingly quick and tight spinning. It's got a strong oversteer at the factory bridle setting, so it's easy to do radical stunts. In quad line mode, it's even more fun to fly. The kite just dances across the wind window, flying backwards, forwards, upside down, etc. It spins about its center like it was on an axel. It's pretty easy to do some surprising things on four lines. I've had it less than a week, so I have barely scratched the surface, but it's definately the favorite kite in my bag right now. There's a detailed review in the summer issue of American Kite that seems to match my limited experience with the kite. If you want a quad line but would rather have a delta shape (and pretty cool graphics), then go for the Ultra. Cheers, George ============================== George W. Gilchrist gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu Department of Zoology NJ-15 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 19:01:57 -1000 From: Yves_Moquin@eureka.qc.ca (Yves Moquin) Message-Id: <61406.18093947@fcbbs.eureka.qc.ca> Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University Subject: Re: Re: kites Thank you for the subscription Marty, It would be nice to get the "digest" once a day instaid of multiple e-mails. Thank you. Yves, in Montreal. yves_moquin@eureka.qc.ca = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:23:14 -1000 From: colette@wbb.com Message-Id: <06430PNUVNSONILUWQN@wbb.com> Subject: Kites Where can I get a really good kite in the Toronto area? I need a really colorful one, not a dinky plastic job but a good quality kite. Anyone? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 05:49:51 -1000 From: windwiz@rain.org (Dan Rubesh) Message-Id: <3ccimv$hrv@coyote.rain.org> Organization: the RAIN Network Subject: Re: Kites In article <06430PNUVNSONILUWQN@wbb.com>, wrote: > >Where can I get a really good kite in the Toronto area? > >I need a really colorful one, not a dinky plastic job but a good quality >kite. > >Anyone? >From the address FAQ listing, try this.. Ontario ------- Touch the Sky inc. 71 Judson st. Harbourside Toronto, Ontario 207 Qweens Quay W Canada Toronto, Ontario M8Z 1A4 Canada Tel:(416)-252-6003 M5J 1A7 Fax:(416)-252-7592 (also Vancouver) Also, there's a club listed for Toronto.. Toronto Kitefliers Etob-d Box 323 Etobikoe, Ontario Canada M9A 4X3 -- Tako Buggy Naked Kichi!! Dan Rubesh AKA Member/Merchant Wind Wizard, Purveyor of windwiz@coyote.rain.org GO Stunt Kites & Accessories danr@crash.cts.com FLY A P.O. Box 5747 (805) 659-5654 (voice) STUNT Ventura, CA 93005 (805) 659-5769 (fax) KITE! Member: Kite Trade Assn. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 16:57:57 -1000 From: Aaron80969@aol.com Message-Id: <950301215555_36566056@aol.com> Organization: Harvard University Office of Information Technology Subject: Kites subscibe Kites-request@harvard.harvard.edu Aaron Westphal = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 18:50:11 -1000 From: bb951@scn.org (Brian McDaniel) Message-Id: Organization: Seattle Community Network Subject: Kites Hi, I see that no news is posted here! Wow I can hardly believe it. Well I just returned a week ago from the Long Beach International Kite Festival. I was only there Sat & Sun but was in on breaking the northern hemisphere record for the most kites in the sky at one time in one place!!! I don't have the exact count but it was over 4000! Thanks to several trains of kites that looked like the each had hundreds inline. Does anyone out there buggie? How about quad liners and fighters? Well anyhow now that rec.kites is on SCN don't be to shy to use it. L8R ;) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:48:09 -1000 From: coreykite@aol.com (Coreykite) Message-Id: <42i619$85l@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Kites Re: Long Beach IKF... There were 4663 kites in the sky on Sunday. A new record for the western hemishere! Fighters had a great competition on Friday. Buggys were out most every day on the beach south of 10th. Street. The beach is a state highway, so access was limited for buggys directly in front of the main arena. Glads you had a good time, hope we see you back next year. aoxomoxoa coreykite@aol.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:46:52 -1000 From: mrkites@webcom.com (John Fraser) Message-Id: <42ik0s$fvg@atheria.europa.com> Organization: Europa |||| Portland, OR Subject: Re: Kites In article , bb951@scn.org says... > > >Hi, I see that no news is posted here! Wow I can hardly believe it. >Well I just returned a week ago from the Long Beach International Kite We were there on Tuesday and saw a number of VERY long trains. Why do some archor the trailing kite on the ground? -- Good Winds ! -- John Fraser Once upon a Breeze Kiteshop mrkites@webcom.com http://webcom.com/~mrkites/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 05:59:00 -1000 From: rlhaas@eskimo.com (Robin Haas) Message-Id: Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Subject: Re: Kites mrkites@webcom.com (John Fraser) wrote: >In article , bb951@scn.org says... >> >> >>Hi, I see that no news is posted here! Wow I can hardly believe it. >>Well I just returned a week ago from the Long Beach International Kite > We were there on Tuesday and saw a number of VERY long trains. Why do >some archor the trailing kite on the ground? >-- The "trains" with the trailing kite anchored to the ground are arches. If you were to inspect these closer you will find that the kites lack a cross spar. The kite is sewn directly onto the line which then acts as the cross spar. There was one arch that was an exception. Someone had a 500 kite Ohashi Arch train. This arch could be flown as a straight train or an arch. One advantage of arches is their stability of flight. On Tuesday and Sunday the long trains were put up. On each day there were "train wrecks" that resulted in some pretty horrendous tangles. On the other hand, the arches were put up nearly every day. Most flyers with arches tended to put them up in close proximity to each other (anchors within a couple feet of each other). There was not one tangle amongst any of these all week. By doing this it provided some interesting photo opportunitys from underneath the arches. The kites appearred to be flying in all directions due to the angles and positions the arches were being flown. If anyone is interested in learning more on arch construction, I will be teaching a class at Fort Worden next year (March 1-3, 1996). The guy with the short signature = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 20:00:45 -1000 From: woker@aol.com (WOKER) Message-Id: <43qv2d$5u6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: kites I recently bought a Rev II and would like to hear from other pilots. I'm also looking for videos of kites (both quad and dual line). Have an intrest in buildin and modifing Revs. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 13:37:27 -1000 From: bgross@micron.net Message-Id: <4572vn$puk@mis02.micron.net> Organization: Micron Internet Services Subject: kites I have a micro prison-ion and am very pleased with it. I live in the Boise, Idaho area or better known to the fliers around here is the land of minor winds. I have flown it when most of my fellow kite buddies were not able to get their kites to fly. I also have found it will fly quite well in winds around 10-12 mph. regaurds, Bruce Ross (kgb) Kite Group of Boise = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =