Date:	Wed, 2 Nov 1994 07:51:50 -1000
From:	bread@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Aaron Bass)
Message-Id: <398jjm$d1c@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Organization: The George Washington University
Subject: Power Kite Handles

I recently used a pair of SkyClaws on my 8 foot Flexi, and flew in strong 
winds.  If anyone has shared this experience, they know the fatigue that 
grows in their hands.  I am weary of buying Good Grips (handle/wrist 
strap) due to my concern with carpal tunnel, but I would like something 
that I can change my grip in flight, or something that is just more 
comfortable.  If anyone has any suggestions, please post them. Thank you.

						A


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Date:	Wed, 2 Nov 1994 23:31:36 -1000
From:	gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu (George W. Gilchrist)
Message-Id: <gilchgw.31.0009871A@zoology.washington.edu>
Organization: Dept. of Zoology, University of Washington
Subject: Re: Power Kite Handles

In article <398jjm$d1c@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> bread@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Aaron Bass) writes:
>I recently used a pair of SkyClaws on my 8 foot Flexi, and flew in strong 
>winds.  If anyone has shared this experience, they know the fatigue that 
>grows in their hands.  I am weary of buying Good Grips (handle/wrist 
>strap) due to my concern with carpal tunnel, but I would like something 
>that I can change my grip in flight, or something that is just more 
>comfortable.  If anyone has any suggestions, please post them. Thank you.


Aaron,

I use Moran Control Grips and find them very comfortable for long periods of 
time. They are thickest at the middle and taper away towards the ends, so they 
don't compress the metacarpus at all. I got mine through Into the Wind for 
about $20.

Cheers, George

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George W. Gilchrist
gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu
Department of Zoology NJ-15
University of Washington
Seattle, WA  98195


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Date:	Fri, 4 Nov 1994 07:20:30 -1000
From:	andrewh@phoenix.harvard.edu (Andrew Hawken)
Message-Id: <39dqgu$lhv@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Subject: Re: Power Kite Handles

Aaron Bass (bread@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu) wrote:
: I recently used a pair of SkyClaws on my 8 foot Flexi, and flew in strong 
: winds.  If anyone has shared this experience, they know the fatigue that 
: grows in their hands.  I am weary of buying Good Grips (handle/wrist 
: strap) due to my concern with carpal tunnel, but I would like something 
: that I can change my grip in flight, or something that is just more 
: comfortable.  If anyone has any suggestions, please post them. Thank you.

As another poster knocked herself out flying a flexi, dont use straps!
The best (only?) solution has to be Peter Lynns quick release handles.
They have a harness strap that goes round your back to take most of the
strain, but will drop the lines out of them if you let go.  Sadly they
are expensive (50UKP new) but I manged to get a second hand pair for
half that.

b.t.w.  Please dont set distribution to usa otherwise us lot in
the uk dont see it. (Umm how come I am reading this when the distribution
is usa ?  I give up!)

Andy
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Date:	Thu, 10 Nov 1994 12:27:03 -1000
From:	andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie)
Message-Id: <Cz2p14.BpH@tug.com>
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organisation
Subject: Re: Power Kite Handles

bread@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Aaron Bass) writes:
>I recently used a pair of SkyClaws on my 8 foot Flexi, and flew in strong 
>winds.  If anyone has shared this experience, they know the fatigue that 
>grows in their hands.  I am weary of buying Good Grips (handle/wrist 
>strap) due to my concern with carpal tunnel, but I would like something 
>that I can change my grip in flight, or something that is just more 
>comfortable.

Some random thoughts...

I find Sky claws fine for reasonable periods of time with kites of any size.
You'll get stronger with practice.  If they hurt too much you're pulling too
hard.

Good grips look great but have a non-padded bar.  I couldn't buy them in the UK
and imported them specially but I hardly use them.

By far the best is the Lynn Dead man handles - You can fly all day with them,
but they'll cost you about 500f the price of your 8' flexi.  With these,
you can relax your hand grip but you can't let go.

This seems to lead back to what you've got... oh well.

Andrew
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Date:	Fri, 11 Nov 1994 04:24:04 -1000
From:	jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka)
Message-Id: <39vuq4$98n@geog20.umd.edu>
Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park
Subject: Re: Power Kite Handles

In article <Cz2p14.BpH@tug.com>, Andrew Beattie <andrew@tug.com> wrote:
>bread@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Aaron Bass) writes:

[regarding comfortable/usable handles]

>By far the best is the Lynn Dead man handles - You can fly all day with them,
>but they'll cost you about 500f the price of your 8' flexi.  With these,
>you can relax your hand grip but you can't let go.

I finally got to try the Lynn handles while I was in Wildwood, and I was
*very* impressed.  They were probably the most comfortable grips I've held,
at least for power kiting.  For a single 8' flexi, I can't see much use to
them.  For non-power flying, my all time favorites are the Moran handles,
which somebody else has already mentioned.  These are foam-covered, tapered
handles which are very comfortable and very usable.  

Jeff


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Date:	Sun, 13 Nov 1994 01:59:00 -1000
From:	Fridolin_Koch@n.maus.de (Fridolin Koch)
Message-Id: <199411131359.a7704@n.maus.de>
Subject: Re: Power Kite Handles

jburka@Glue.umd.edu wrote on 11.11.94 in Msg A22914@BB (REC.KITES):

JCB>These are foam-covered, tapered handles which are very comfortable
JCB>and very usable.

I agree mainly, but I think that when you fly for a longer period of time, the
strings on which the line is attached can rub your fingers pretty bad....

Bye, Fridolin.

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Date:	Mon, 14 Nov 1994 04:42:31 -1000
From:	fifew@wimsey.com (David Fife Williamson)
Message-Id: <fifew.8.00062D06@wimsey.com>
Organization: WIMSEY ASSOCIATES
Subject: Re: Power Kite Handles

In article <199411131359.a7704@n.maus.de> Fridolin_Koch@n.maus.de (Fridolin Koch) writes:
>From: Fridolin_Koch@n.maus.de (Fridolin Koch)
>Subject: Re: Power Kite Handles
>Date: Sun, 13 Nov 94 11:59:00 GMT

>jburka@Glue.umd.edu wrote on 11.11.94 in Msg A22914@BB (REC.KITES):

>JCB>These are foam-covered, tapered handles which are very comfortable
>JCB>and very usable.

 We use this handel made bye Big wind KIte's it has both types of handdels on 
it ie the strap and the handle so if your hands get sore you can switch from 
one to the other. We fly 4 packs of North Shore Radicals so the pill can get 
to ya!!!!!!!


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