Date:	Mon, 19 Sep 1994 05:54:49 -1000
From:	ajs@stairs.nw.att.com (Alan Sparling)
Message-Id: <CwDw7E.1zM@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Organization: AT&T Enhanced 9-1-1 Development
Subject: Rec.kite T shirts, was: Re: Mid American S.K.C. & A.K.A. Convention


In article <2E7C5D70@gate.rd.hydro.on.ca>, PoyJ@ice4.kcps.rd.hydro.on.ca (Poy, Jim) writes:

|> I would like to let all the Rec. kite readers know 
|> that Alan Sparling made up a great T-shirt with the Rec. Kite pin graphics 
|> on it. Very nice job indeed, black t's with five different colours on them, 
|> wow! I know everyone will want to have one, I happen to notice he had a few 
|> extra, if you are fast or lucky you may be able to purchase one from him. 
|> Allan, I think you could make a nice little profit from them. (But if I know 
|> Allan he would prefer to give them away ;-) Sorry Allan, I just had to say 
|> something to the Rec. Kite fliers about your efforts.

The T shirts are definately not for sale, I feel very strongly about not
making a profit on Jeanettte's efforts.  I ordered 12 shirts as that is
what I felt I could afford to give away.  Since, I had problems with the
company that actually produced the shirts messing up the design, they gave
me 4 extra shirts when they reprinted them.  Out of the 16 shirts, I now
have 2 large shirts left.  I am sorry to say that the XXL's went first, and
there were more of those than any other size.  I guess that says something
about people who sit in front of computers all day (myself included, I am
unfortunately one of the XXL wearers :-(((.

|> 
|> Talk about giving, he was a real sport when he won some money through a ticket
|> draw, he gave it all back to support the event. Just like David Gomberg did 
|> at one of the events last year. He also won many other goodies like kites 
|> etc. talk about good luck, I should get him to buy me a lottery ticket.
|> 

Unfortunately I usually win things I can not use: I don't drink, I won a 
case of wine; I have no children, I won a fisher price train set; I fly
mainly sport kites, I won a dime store single line kite.....

I have yet to win the lottery, but then I very rarely play.

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Alan Sparling
ajs@stairs.nw.att.com


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Date:	Wed, 21 Sep 1994 23:27:37 -1000
From:	gaffer@ibmpcug.co.uk (Andrew Beattie)
Message-Id: <CwIyA4.75M@ibmpcug.co.uk>
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organiszation
Subject: Re: Rec.kite T shirts, was: Re: Mid American S.K.C. & A.K.A. Convention

Alan Sparling <ajs@stairs.nw.att.com> wrote:
>The T shirts are definately not for sale, I feel very strongly about not
>making a profit on Jeanettte's efforts.

Whilst I applaud your stance, my view is different.  I got some T-shirts
based on Jeanette's design made for Fano.  I just about managed to break
even on the venture.  I felt that i was providing a service to the people
who were there.  It is cheaper to produce a batch of shirts than to
have them made one at a time.

Perhaps in the future, I will build some kites with the logo.  I would
like to be able to sell them to rec.kiters for not only the cost of
the material, but also a small profit on top (so that I can buy more fabric
to feed my habit...)

The decision should lie with Jeanette.  Are you listening Jeanette??

How do you feel?

Are we free to use the logo in any way we choose?
Only for the Pin?
At a fixed cost per item?
At a percentage cost per item (A few cents for a pin, $$$ for a huge parafoil)
Only for items which are given away?
Only if we give you one of each item produced?
Some other deal?

Andrew
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