Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 23:00:02 -1000 From: john.mitchell@multinet.de (john) Message-Id: <199503100900.AA07897@BlackBird.MultiNET.DE> Organization: Harvard University Office of Information Technology Subject: Re: Revolution 1.5 information As some of you already know the Revolution 1.5 is expected to be released shortly. There have been a few of you that have already had a chance to test fly the Beta versions and possibly the release versions. I would be very interested in knowing what you think about the Revolution 1.5. What is the exact width and height? Walter Thompson mentioned that it is 7 feet wide. This would only be about 6 inches wider then the Revolution II, not much differance. A 7'9" width would be almost exactly between the I and II. I am presently trying to accquire one, when I do, I will test it out and let you all know what I think about it. Over-the-Rainbow, John Mitchell Munich, Germany Int. Swiss and German Quad-line Champion - 1994 (Karl Robertshaw-GB and Patrick Guggenheim-CH beat me at the EuroCup - 1994) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 04:28:22 -1000 From: jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) Message-Id: <3jpnm6$19k@geog20.umd.edu> Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Subject: Re: Revolution 1.5 information In article <199503100900.AA07897@BlackBird.MultiNET.DE>, john wrote: >As some of you already know the Revolution 1.5 is expected to be released >shortly. Really? First I've heard of it. Neat. Should make for some nice progressive stacks (though probably still not as nice as the 6-7-8-9 stack TC Powers built a bunch of years ago.) >1.5. What is the exact width and height? Walter Thompson mentioned that >it is 7 feet wide. This would only be about 6 inches wider then the >Revolution II, not much differance. A 7'9" width would be almost exactly >between the I and II. I think you're a bit off here. The Rev II has a 74" spreader on a ~72" sail, which is to say that it's really about 6'. A 7' kite would in fact be at least 10-12" wider than the II. Knowing several people who've made 7' kites, it seems that that size increase is significant. A 7'6"-7'7" would be closer to halfway between the I and II... >I am presently trying to accquire one, when I do, I will test it out and >let you all know what I think about it. Yes, please do! Jeff -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | Pithy, insightful quote to be inserted | | | when one occurs to me. *If* one occurs | |jeffy@glue.umd.edu | to me. | = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 22:26:58 -1000 From: john.mitchell@multinet.de (john) Message-Id: <199503130826.AA09634@BlackBird.MultiNET.DE> Organization: Harvard University Office of Information Technology Subject: Re: Revolution 1.5 information Jeff Burka Commented: > In article <199503100900.AA07897@BlackBird.MultiNET.DE>, > john wrote: > >As some of you already know the Revolution 1.5 is expected to be released > >shortly. > > Really? First I've heard of it. Neat. Should make for some nice > progressive stacks (though probably still not as nice as the 6-7-8-9 stack > TC Powers built a bunch of years ago.) > I built a progressive train back in '93. It was a II(66), a 83(83) and a I(100). They fly beautifully and hover very well without shaking. > > >1.5. What is the exact width and height? Walter Thompson mentioned that > >it is 7 feet wide. This would only be about 6 inches wider then the > >Revolution II, not much differance. A 7'9" width would be almost exactly > >between the I and II. > > I think you're a bit off here. The Rev II has a 74" spreader on a ~72" > sail, which is to say that it's really about 6'. A 7' kite would in fact > be at least 10-12" wider than the II. Knowing several people who've made > 7' kites, it seems that that size increase is significant. > > A 7'6"-7'7" would be closer to halfway between the I and II... I stand corrected. One point for you Jeff. The Upper spars are in fact 74" long together or 37" each as Jeff states. Maybe Walter was just guessing the width. Sure would be nice if it is 7'6". > > >I am presently trying to accquire one, when I do, I will test it out and > >let you all know what I think about it. > > Yes, please do! > I here it is on the way. Hope to have it by the end of the week. > Over-the-Rainbow, John = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 03:00:56 -1000 From: pp@wsinti10.win.tue.nl (Peter Peters) Message-Id: <3k1fm8$8eu@wsinti10.win.tue.nl> Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Subject: Re: Revolution 1.5 information john.mitchell@multinet.de (john) writes: >I stand corrected. >One point for you Jeff. >The Upper spars are in fact 74" long together or 37" each as Jeff states. >Maybe Walter was just guessing the width. Sure would be nice if it is >7'6". Ok, now you've done it ! I'm confused. (:-) :-)) Could some kind soul who owns one summarize all those measures in an ordered fashion (preferably ordered by rev type, please ?). And why is always the width of a rev given, but never it's height ? That seems to me to be just as important. Or is there a silent agreement about width/height ratio's on rev's that I'm unaware of ? Peter. -- Peter Peters, pp@win.tue.nl, http://www.win.tue.nl/win/cs/fm/pp/ Like kites.... look at http://www.win.tue.nl/win/cs/fm/pp/kites/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 05:13:19 -1000 From: jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) Message-Id: <3k1nef$6hh@geog20.umd.edu> Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Subject: Re: Revolution 1.5 information In article <3k1fm8$8eu@wsinti10.win.tue.nl>, Peter Peters wrote: >Ok, now you've done it ! I'm confused. (:-) :-)) >Could some kind soul who owns one summarize all those measures in an >ordered fashion (preferably ordered by rev type, please ?). I don't have a yard stick handy to measure the actual sails. A Rev I has a 108" leading edge spar (sail is maybe 106"?) and the down tubes are 36". However, these are not perpendicular to the leading edge, so the actual height of the kite is under 36", I would guess ~33". The kite is built >From 5 36" sticks; they'd all be interchangeable if not for the two ferrules on the center of the leading edge... A Rev II has a 74" leading edge (made from 2 34" sticks) and downtubes of 24". Again, the actual height of the sail is a couple of inches less than this. >And why is always the width of a rev given, but never it's height ? That >seems to me to be just as important. Or is there a silent agreement about >width/height ratio's on rev's that I'm unaware of ? Rev's, like Genki's, have a basically 3:1 aspect ratio. Hence the ability to use 5 equal-length sticks for a I. The sail of a II is 72" so the 24" downtube is still basically 1/3 of the kite size. Jeff -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | Pithy, insightful quote to be inserted | | | when one occurs to me. *If* one occurs | |jeffy@glue.umd.edu | to me. | = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =