Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 06:04:54 -1000 From: Geoffrey Mitchell Message-Id: <3qffn6$6ba@inforamp.net> Organization: TD Bank Subject: SkyTiger Kites and Buggies I was wondering if anyone has any of the SkyTiger traction kites (26,40). I was maybe looking at the 40 sq ft since I am over 200 lbs. Any advice would be appreciated! Also, what do buggies cost? I was quoted by the manufacturer od SkyTiger kites that they would throw in a buggy for their cost if I bought a kite. They said there cost is approx $600 canadian dollars. Approx $475 US dollars. Is that a good price? Geoffrey Mitchell Toronto, Ontario Canada mitchg@tdbank.ca = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 04:48:49 -1000 From: jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) Message-Id: <3qpsoh$l8s@geog20.umd.edu> Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Subject: Re: SkyTiger Kites and Buggies In article <3qffn6$6ba@inforamp.net>, Geoffrey Mitchell wrote: >I was wondering if anyone has any of the SkyTiger traction kites (26,40). >I was maybe looking at the 40 sq ft since I am over 200 lbs. > >Any advice would be appreciated! I've got two SkyTigers, 18 and 26, with plans to buy more as money allows. I suppose that counts as a glowing recommendation. ;-) There are current 7 versions of the SkyTiger available: 18, 26, 40, hi40, hi60, icarex hi40, and icarex hi60. The 40 sounds like it's probably a good starting point at your size. I weigh 175-ish and started with the 26. It's been a good choice for buggying. I've been overpowered a number of times (and even lifted off the ground), hence the 18, but there have been plenty of times I've wished for more power. The high aspect ratio kites seem to perform better at the edge, allowing better upwind tacking. The icarex versions are of 1/2oz with a spectra bridle. Probably the single best buggying experience I've had was with a borrowed icarex hi40. Remember that with more experience, you can handle bigger kites. I had my hands full with the hi40, while folks smaller than me were buggying with hi60's that day. >Also, what do buggies cost? I was quoted by the manufacturer od SkyTiger >kites that they would throw in a buggy for their cost if I bought a kite. >They said there cost is approx $600 canadian dollars. Approx $475 US >dollars. Is that a good price? That's a great price for a new buggy. The flexi buggy typically costs over $500 US. If you have the opportunity to sit in a few types of buggys before you buy, I'd strongly suggest it. Perhaps the primary reason I chose the Lynn buggy over the Flexi was that I found the Flexi's seat to be uncomfortable. You may have the opposite experience, of course -- I know plenty of people who find the Flexi buggy to be more comfortable. Jeff (who *really* wants that icarex hi40 in his collection...) -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | Pithy, insightful quote to be inserted | | | when one occurs to me. *If* one occurs | |jeffy@glue.umd.edu | to me. | = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 00:11:24 -1000 From: bforest@bliss.demon.co.uk (bruce forest) Message-Id: Organization: Demon Internet News Service Subject: Re: SkyTiger Kites and Buggies Hi there.. In article <3qffn6$6ba@inforamp.net>, Geoffrey Mitchell wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has any of the SkyTiger traction kites (26,40). > I was maybe looking at the 40 sq ft since I am over 200 lbs. > > Any advice would be appreciated! I just bought a Sky Tiger 18 (for fun not traction) and flew it first time yesterday. Its a great kite, easy to launch, and fun. It's my first quad, so I'm just getting used to it, but it's really easy, actually. It pulls ok, nothing like my 3 x 10 Flexi stack, though. I suppose a 40 would pull more. I'm about 180 pounds and my Flexis drag me around like a paper doll. But the arm movements are far more than could be used in buggying, while the Tiger is all pivot, so perfect I guess. I can't say what a larger quad foil is like in higher winds, but I suppose it would be an order of magnitude higher. It's a well made kite, and if it suits your needs for traction, I wouldn't hesitate in getting one. > > Also, what do buggies cost? I was quoted by the manufacturer od SkyTiger > kites that they would throw in a buggy for their cost if I bought a kite. > They said there cost is approx $600 canadian dollars. Approx $475 US > dollars. Is that a good price? Can't help you there, I get dragged, not buggied! B) Cheers, Bruce -- Bruce Forest bforest@bliss.demon.co.uk bforest@bliss.co.uk PGP public key on any keyserver...Encrypted mail preferred Only a basset hound gives true dog satisfaction........... = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:19:53 -1000 From: lord@eskimo.com (David Lord) Message-Id: Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Subject: Re: SkyTiger Kites and Buggies In article <3qffn6$6ba@inforamp.net> Geoffrey Mitchell writes: >Xref: eskimo rec.kites:16331 >Path: >eskimo!news.pixi.com!news.lei.net!news.oz.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech!swrinde >!sdd.hp.com!news1.best.com!svc.portal.com!ia.mks.com!border.com!uunet.ca!news.uu >net.ca!golden.org!uunet.ca!news.uunet.ca!inforamp.net!usenet >From: Geoffrey Mitchell >Newsgroups: rec.kites >Subject: SkyTiger Kites and Buggies >Date: 30 May 1995 16:04:54 GMT >Organization: TD Bank >Lines: 15 >Message-ID: <3qffn6$6ba@inforamp.net> >NNTP-Posting-Host: ts2-06.inforamp.net >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) >I was wondering if anyone has any of the SkyTiger traction kites (26,40). >I was maybe looking at the 40 sq ft since I am over 200 lbs. >Any advice would be appreciated! >Also, what do buggies cost? I was quoted by the manufacturer od SkyTiger >kites that they would throw in a buggy for their cost if I bought a kite. >They said there cost is approx $600 canadian dollars. Approx $475 US >dollars. Is that a good price? >Geoffrey Mitchell >Toronto, Ontario >Canada >mitchg@tdbank.ca Geoffrey I have both a Skytiger 26 and an 18. Both are good buggy kites. The 40 would be a good first kite for buggying. Depending on where you buggy it shoukld start to provide adequate traction at around 9 mph and start to be a large load at around 16 mph or so. The 18 would then be into its range of wind for good traction. For lower wind speeds you will need something with more area, something in the range of 60 square feet and up, depending on your pocket book. Btw the buggy price seems ok, could be their price, depends on the model. BFK sells the original Peter Lynn for $549. If you have acess to the web check out my homepage, there are several pages on buggy engines. The address is http://mail.eskimo.com/~lord Dave Lord Sumner Washington = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =