Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 22:55:12 -1000 From: dorf@iesd.auc.dk (Thomas Dorf Nielsen) Message-Id: Organization: Math & CS at Aalborg University Subject: What IS a Synergy? I just saw an add for a kite called "Synergy-Deca" Sadly. the accompanying pics were small, b/w and generally useless! Does anyone know this kite? Anyone know where to get better pics? Maybe even plans? And while I am out here: What does "swept-wing" actually mean? Is there such a thing as a non-swept-wing stunter? Steady windz! -- Thomas Dorf Nielsen | dorf@iesd.auc.dk | "...and the rest - Amagergade 25, 1.TV | http://www.iesd.auc.dk/~dorf | is silence..." DK-9000 Aalborg | Aalborg University | oo DENMARK | Fr. Bajers Vej 7, E1-207 | . . . __/\_/\_/`' = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:50:20 -1000 From: ecollstr@dec5102.aarhues.dk (Esben Collstrup) Message-Id: <49hkuc$5lf@esanews.denet.dk> Organization: News server at Danish Commerical Schools Subject: Re: What IS a Synergy? Thomas Dorf Nielsen (dorf@iesd.auc.dk) wrote: > I just saw an add for a kite called "Synergy-Deca" > Sadly. the accompanying pics were small, b/w and generally useless! > Does anyone know this kite? Anyone know where to get better pics? > Maybe even plans? If memory serves me right, there has been several photos of various members of the Synergy-family in the recent issues of Kite Lines and American Kites. > And while I am out here: What does "swept-wing" actually mean? Is > there such a thing as a non-swept-wing stunter? The Flexifoils, Quadrifoils, Paraflex's etc. spring to mind as non-swept-wing stunters. Among the delta-shaped stunters: Skynasur Aerobat, Hawk (from HQ?). Esben Collstrup ecollstr@aarhues.dk = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:57:18 -1000 From: gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu (George W. Gilchrist) Message-Id: <49i3ns$kgo@nntp4.u.washington.edu> Organization: Dept. of Zoology, University of Washington Subject: Re: What IS a Synergy? dorf@iesd.auc.dk (Thomas Dorf Nielsen) wrote: >I just saw an add for a kite called "Synergy-Deca" >Sadly. the accompanying pics were small, b/w and generally useless! >Does anyone know this kite? Anyone know where to get better pics? >Maybe even plans? Thomas, The Synergy series of kites is a group of quad liners constructed in a rather unique fashion. The spars stretch the sail into it's flight conformation using a design principle called "tensigrity" (coined by Buckminster Fuller). I'm sure you can find some color photos on one of the web sites linked through http://www.kfs.org/kites. These kites are quite unlike anything else in the sky. Flight characteristics vary among the models, but in general the kites are a bit slower and more graceful than other quad lines. Their 3D shape allows a unique class of tricks called inversions. It would be really bad form to copy these kites without permission of the manufacturer (Guildworks Studios) since they have invested thousands of hours in making these designs fly. Guildworks usually have demos at most major festivals in the US. I have three of their kites and all are wonderful. Cheers, George ======================================================== George W. Gilchrist University of Washington gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu Department of Zoology Phone:(206)543-4859 Box 351800 FAX:(206)543-3041 Seattle, WA 98l95-1800 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:57:18 -1000 From: gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu (George W. Gilchrist) Message-Id: <49i3ns$kgo@nntp4.u.washington.edu> Organization: Dept. of Zoology, University of Washington Subject: Re: What IS a Synergy? dorf@iesd.auc.dk (Thomas Dorf Nielsen) wrote: >I just saw an add for a kite called "Synergy-Deca" >Sadly. the accompanying pics were small, b/w and generally useless! >Does anyone know this kite? Anyone know where to get better pics? >Maybe even plans? Thomas, The Synergy series of kites is a group of quad liners constructed in a rather unique fashion. The spars stretch the sail into it's flight conformation using a design principle called "tensigrity" (coined by Buckminster Fuller). I'm sure you can find some color photos on one of the web sites linked through http://www.kfs.org/kites. These kites are quite unlike anything else in the sky. Flight characteristics vary among the models, but in general the kites are a bit slower and more graceful than other quad lines. Their 3D shape allows a unique class of tricks called inversions. It would be really bad form to copy these kites without permission of the manufacturer (Guildworks Studios) since they have invested thousands of hours in making these designs fly. Guildworks usually have demos at most major festivals in the US. I have three of their kites and all are wonderful. Cheers, George ======================================================== George W. Gilchrist University of Washington gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu Department of Zoology Phone:(206)543-4859 Box 351800 FAX:(206)543-3041 Seattle, WA 98l95-1800 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:39:16 -1000 From: andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie) Message-Id: Organization: /usr/lib/news/organisation Subject: Re: What IS a Synergy? gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu (George W. Gilchrist) writes: >The Synergy series of kites is a group of quad liners constructed in a >rather unique fashion. [...] I'm sure you can find some color photos on one >of the web sites linked through http://www.kfs.org/kites. Sadly, I don't recall seeing one. Andrew -- New to rec.kites? START HERE! | To: www@kfs.org send an email message like this-> | Subject: service /-\ () >< () |\/| () >< () /-\ | http://www.kfs.org/kites/welcome Next time you visit KFS, download the bookmark file. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:21:03 -1000 From: dgomberg@ednet1.osl.or.gov (David Gomberg) Message-Id: <49jevv$bpn@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Organization: Eastern Oregon State College Subject: Re: What IS a Synergy? > And while I am out here: What does "swept-wing" actually mean? Is > there such a thing as a non-swept-wing stunter? In addition to the inflatable airfoils, like the flexifoil and peel, there is a whole class of diamond wing stunters like Dyna Kite, Trlbys, and Rainbows. The original contemporary stunters all started out as diamond wings. Ever heard of a Garber, or Peter Powell? And of course, virtually all of the made-for-quadline kites, like Revs, Synergys, and the four-line foils are not swept wings. It just *seems* that all stunters are swept wing. In the old days, we used to call them all California Style wings. But that was a very long time ago. Hope that helps. -- David Gomberg phone 503-996-3083 Box 113, Neotsu Oregon 97364 USA fax 503-994-9692 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 03:20:50 -1000 From: S_Wagner@msn.com (Sandy Wagner) Message-Id: <00001f81+0000178f@msn.com> Organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) Subject: Re: What IS a Synergy? The Synergy Deca series from Guildworks is a quadline kite that is a bit slower than a Rev. It is precise and very forgiving. Its flexible framework and 3 dimensional design really allow it to be very expressive. It is available from most retailers in the US. It is also available in France, Germany, Holland and Japan. They have been very successful competitively on the east Coast and on the AKA national circuits. If you would like more info, please email me directly. Sandy Wagner NOTE** I am sponsored by Guildworks Flight Studio, therefore my opinions may be biased. However, I fly the kites because I love them! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 22:47:44 -1000 From: pp@win.tue.nl (Peter Peters) Message-Id: <49mffg$hub@svin09.win.tue.nl> Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Subject: Re: What IS a Synergy? In article , andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie) writes: >gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu (George W. Gilchrist) writes: >>The Synergy series of kites is a group of quad liners constructed in a >>rather unique fashion. [...] I'm sure you can find some color photos on one >>of the web sites linked through http://www.kfs.org/kites. >Sadly, I don't recall seeing one. well, it isn't great, but it's there...(in fact there's two and a half...) http://www.win.tue.nl/~pp/kites/kitelist/syndeca.html Peter -- Peter Peters, pp@win.tue.nl, http://www.win.tue.nl/~pp/ Like kites.... look at http://www.win.tue.nl/~pp/kites/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 11:25:25 -1000 From: Bob Pleasant Message-Id: <728198021wnr@pleasant.demon.co.uk> Organization: None Subject: Re: What IS a Synergy? In article: dorf@iesd.auc.dk (Thomas Dorf Nielsen) writes: > I *don't* buy kites! I only fly homemades! > > Quite another matter is it, that a bought kite is probably quite a lot > more precicely built and therefore will perform better - to some > degree, anyway! (For sure if you compare them with *my* kites! ;-) But > what if that (little?) better performance is not what you are after? One of the issues that you have overlooked is that your poor performing or poorly made copy may well damage the reputation of the genuine product. It may not be known to the general public (or experts) that the kite you are flying (or attempting to fly) is a copy and should not be used to evaluate the genuine article. This may seem far fetched but someone here suggested that this is the very reason that Disney are strict about copyright infringement. Regards ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Bob Pleasant EMail bob@pleasant.demon.co.uk | | | ----------------------------------------------------------------- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:22:18 -1000 From: gengvall@aol.com (G Engvall) Message-Id: <4akkpa$b4r@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: What IS a Synergy? In article <728198021wnr@pleasant.demon.co.uk>, Bob Pleasant writes: >One of the issues that you have overlooked is that your poor performing or >poorly made copy may well damage the reputation of the genuine product. It >may not be known to the general public (or experts) that the kite you are >flying (or attempting to fly) is a copy and should not be used to evaluate >the genuine article. Amen. All too often, that is exactly what happens. 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